In 2025, Le Guess Who? guest curator Amirtha Kidambi launched her Outernational podcast: a series of conversations that explore the relationship between music and revolution, featuring artists who are using their music and platforms to grapple with the intersecting global crises of our times.
During Le Guess Who? 2025, Kidambi hosted a two-hour talk & improv session at the COSMOS Foyer which has now been turned into the fifth episode of the podcast series. Featuring legendary poet/musician Saul Williams, Sonic Liberation Front founder Dirar Kalash from Palestine and South African musicians Masello Motana and Asher Gamedze (also one of the guest curators for the festival), Kidambi hosted a kaleidoscopic conversation across borders, histories and struggles.
Amirtha Kidambi: "Listening to this conversation again gave me much needed inspiration to persist among escalating terrors in the United States and around the world. Each of these artists is a deep thinker and organizer in their community, using their platforms in ingenious, creative and subversive trickster ways. The conversation is bursting with wisdom, from historical lessons to deeply embodied cultural memory. After our discussion, we flowed directly into and improvised performance, joined by my dear Iranian-Canadian friend Mohammad Mehrabani aka Saint Abdullah. After tuning ourselves in dialogue, we tuned vibrationally, digesting our thoughts and allowing them to take sonic form."
You can listen to the podcast on Substack, Apple Podcasts and YouTube.
